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. the open secret in washington was warren rudman's winning salesmanship was a large part of how gramm-rudman-hollings became law. i do not mean in any way to belittle the responsibility in the responsibility of senator hollings and our man right here. he was really a good salesman. i have to say this about phil gramm. it is not in my remarks. phil and i have had a lot of fun over the years. i am famous for saying things probably i should not, you know? [laughter] one of the things i told phil -- i have never known him to lose a debate or win a vote. [laughter] i just couldn't pass that up. i am only able to tell that in front of small audiences before. [laughter] he was a centrist never afraid to take on his own party to reach out to democrats. shortly before announcing he would not seek a third term to serve people of new hampshire, he took both parties to task for failure to work together to stem these raising deficits. he said -- is it not possible with the brilliance, with the goodwill, with the good sense, could we not all come together? he said this on the senate floor. as a nat
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